Beth Sarim

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  Predictions for the next decade?

  by jehovaxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

  then some huge huge changes.

  for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

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  Beth Sarim

  I dont think they can scrap 1914.

  It will be mentioned less,,less,,less & less...

  Until it fades away and is forgotten.

  Thats why everything is online so the Borg can reinvent itself.
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  Judicial Committees asking Details of Sex acts

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember knowing that jcs would ask very personal questions about sex activities.

  this article addresses this: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15074595 .

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  Biahi....wow!

  Thats just something else. Not really surprised.
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  FDS 1919 Declaration Date

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  did rutherford have any "prophetic" justification for 1919 as the date that jesus declared him (ahem, the wt organisation) the fds?

  such as some calculation attached to 1914?

  that in 1919, jesus would come looking for his true organisation?.

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  Yes. It was more important for the borg to ""stick with tradition"".

  What happened when Carl Olaf Jonson did his research,,,could have collapsed the Borg.

  Ultimately his disfellowshipping.
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  FDS 1919 Declaration Date

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did rutherford have any "prophetic" justification for 1919 as the date that jesus declared him (ahem, the wt organisation) the fds?

  such as some calculation attached to 1914?

  that in 1919, jesus would come looking for his true organisation?.

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  PhiZzy;

  Thats whats so alarming & puzzling, disturbing about the Borg stubbornly adhering to the 607BCE --1914 AD dilemma.

  They knew it was wrong!

  And they admitted it. I even read that in Crisis of Conscience. Fred Franz knew 607 was a dud,, he admitted it and wanted to ""stick with tradition"

  Thats the reason Carl Olaf Jonson & Raymond Franz booted. Well more so for Carl,, Ray was found eating with Gregerson.

  But anyway the Borg was aware 607 was a dud,,,& independent research would crumble the Borg!!

  If 607bce and 1914 were in fact,,proven to be false.
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  What If The Tower Fell?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the truly unthinkable happened and the tower went down?

  perhaps the irs swooped in and claimed fraud and padlocked the headquarters and kingdom hall doors?

  or the gb took the money and ran to a nice non-extradition country to live out their years?

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  Sadly,,,many are institutionalized by the Borg like in Shawshank.

  They would be like a chicken with its head cut off.

  What could be a traumatic event for hardcore,longtimers.

  They wont know up from down or who to turn to,,after having their thinking done for decades.
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  Retirement

  by jehovaxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the difference is now blatantly obvious, older ones who went against direction of the gb and planned for retirement have relatively more comfortable lives.. those who trusted and followed gb direction never got further education or training, pioneered or spent most of their lives knocking on doors for free, making just enough to get by in a part time job.. if you followed direction from the gb then you thought the end was just around the corner so no need to plan for retirement.. now these ones have indeed got old which they were given the impression they never would.

  they are a burden on others.

  the state has to pay for them in their old age.

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  HappyDad;

  Good for you!!
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  Covid Vaccine

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i may be mistaken, but wasn’t there a governing body video where one of them said something along the lines of you don’t trust that the vaccines are safe do you really believe that the governing body is the faithful slave?

  perhaps i imagined this but i thought something like this was said.

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  Beth Sarim

  It was definitely implied somewhere.

  When the vaxes were just being widely distributed,,, that if you weren't taking the shots,, that you lacked faith or trust or something.

  Sloppyjoe2,,,outstanding work on your part.
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  What's the org like now?

  by Leathercrop in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  even tho i've been expelled about 4 years now, i truly checked out around 2015. changes in the org i think we're just starting to get going.

  i remember the kingdom songs suddenly getting the taylor swift treatment aka pop music treatment.

  meetings were getting axed or meshed together or something.

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  Yes.

  Somehow they craft it,,word it and say things so the rank and file dont grasp things right away.

  Masters of manipulating.
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  Nobody else understands

  by ElderBerry in

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  2. beliefs

  if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.

  i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.

  now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..

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  "Armageddon".

  Its a place in the middle east "Meggido""

  "Armageddon"",, an event thats never going to happen.
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  Retirement

  by jehovaxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the difference is now blatantly obvious, older ones who went against direction of the gb and planned for retirement have relatively more comfortable lives.. those who trusted and followed gb direction never got further education or training, pioneered or spent most of their lives knocking on doors for free, making just enough to get by in a part time job.. if you followed direction from the gb then you thought the end was just around the corner so no need to plan for retirement.. now these ones have indeed got old which they were given the impression they never would.

  they are a burden on others.

  the state has to pay for them in their old age.

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  Beth Sarim

  In dubland,,,retirement has a way of catching up to you and unprepared.

  You're NOT taught that.

  Its always urgent,,urgent..

  I just sounded like "Foreigner" saying that .